City of LA May Be Moving toward Approval of Digital Kiosks that Could Collect Data from Minors

Do we really need digital kiosks that could collect data from minors?

Advertising is invading our landscape in ever more intrusive ways these days, with digital signs, kiosks and billboards becoming increasingly present in our cities. What’s even more disturbing, advertising is also invading our privacy as technology makes it easier than ever to collect our personal information. It’s bad enough that advertisers are gathering information on millions of adults every day, but it’s even more disturbing when they’re gathering personal data from minors who often don’t even know that their info is being collected.

But the City of LA may be moving forward on an agreement that could put 300 to 500 digital kiosks on our streets, giving advertisers more opportunities to scoop up personal info. The LA City Council voted in 2023 to release a request for proposals (RFP) for interactive kiosks. While the RFP hasn’t been released yet, Councilmembers Tim McOsker and Curren Price have submitted a motion to push the process forward. In the meantime, a company called IKE Smart City and/or its parent company Orange Barrel Media have been busy securing letters of support from local chambers of commerce. They’re hoping to get a contract that would allow them to install their interactive digital kiosks in our communities.

So why should we be worried about the kiosks collecting our personal info? Because, in its privacy policy, IKE acknowledges that they collect and share all kinds of data about people who interact with the kiosks, starting with identifiers like your IP address, device name, phone number, and email address. They also collect and share geolocation and biometric data. IKE’s privacy policy is a classic example of how tech companies try to make you believe that they care about protecting your info. They start off saying that they respect your privacy and are committed to protecting your data. They also tell you that the kiosks don’t store any of the info you give them. But then they acknowledge that your data is being shared with their third-party partners, and that they have no control over the way those partners use the data. They also say that your data can be disclosed to their parent company, subsidiaries, affiliates, and any company that acquires their assets.

If you have kids, think about what this means. Say your teenage daughter is out with some friends, and they decide it would be fun to use the IKE kiosk’s photo booth option. Are they going to take the time to read through IKE’s terms and conditions before they start? Not likely. This means that while they’re having fun getting their picture taken with their friends, they could be giving away all sorts of personal info, including their device name, phone number, email address, location info and biometric data. And IKE acknowledges that, not only do they have no control over how their partners use the data, but they also have the option to share it with their subsidiaries and affiliates.

It gets worse. As part of the process for approving the Sidewalk & Transit Amenities Program (STAP) in 2022, the City Council also approved an ordinance that removed restrictions on any outdoor advertising structures in the public right-of-way that were part of a program approved by the Board of Public Works (BPW). Basically what this does is open up our sidewalks to a flood of new digital ad structures. You may have already seen the STAP bus shelters with digital ads. Digital kiosks are probably the next phase. (IKE’s kiosks appear to be about eight feet tall.) Because there are now no meaningful restrictions on these structures in the public right-of-way, we can expect these things to keep coming. If the BPW gives the green light, it’s a done deal. And don’t expect the BPW to be too particular. If it means revenue for the city, it’s unlikely the members of the board will raise any objections.

If you want to let your city council rep know how you feel about this, you can send them an e-mail or give them a call. If you don’t know who your council rep is, use this link to find out.

Los Angeles Neighborhood Info

If you send an e-mail, you should include the following council file info in your subject line.

Council File: 22-1154-S1, Interactive Kiosks/Installation and Maintenance

It’s bad enough that we’re constantly being bombarded with ads on our personal devices. Now the City of LA wants to put digital advertising on our streets. And if IKE gets the contract, it appears that minors will be at additional risk of having their data collected and shared.

Have Developers Been Pushing Back against Laws that Would Restrict Building in Fire Prone Areas?

Image from Cal Fire Update, January 9, 2025

As LA struggles to deal with the massive devastation of the recent fires (which are still not completely contained), I wanted to repost this article from The Lever, which argues that developers and real estate interests pushed back against efforts to limit development in fire prone areas. You have to sign up to read it, but it’s free, and it’s an interesting read.

The Architects of L.A.’s Wildfire Devastation

It reminded me of the debate over SB 610, recently introduced in the California Legislature by State Senator Scott Wiener, which would have radically changed the approach to fire hazard rankings in California. Opponents saw it as an attempt to allow new development in areas where wildfire risk is high. The bill was not approved, but supporters have said they’ll try again.

As I said in my previous post, I believe we need careful review of new projects in areas where there’s a risk of fire. The fires that burned across LA this month resulted in lost lives, lost homes and lost businesses. We need to do everything we can to make sure a disaster like this doesn’t happen again.

Thoughts on LA, Fires and the Future

Map of current fires in LA area from Cal Fire, as of January 12, 2025

If you’re looking for updates on the fires in LA, this post won’t offer anything you haven’t heard already. The LA Times, Daily News, and local news stations have been doing an excellent job reporting on the situation. I’m writing this post because I want to talk about what comes next. While the fires are still burning, and may continue to burn through next week, we do need to start talking about the future of LA. And I think the best way to start talking about the future is to begin with the past….

The City of LA was built on real estate speculation. To some degree, this is true of most cities, but it’s especially true of Los Angeles. Writers have commented on the fact that this area lacks a number of the things that are generally the basis for large scale development, most fundamentally a reliable source of water. Nor did the City of LA initially have a port, and only gained one by annexing San Pedro in 1909. That area is only tenuously connected to the rest of the city by a narrow, 20-mile corridor that’s basically just a rail line.

LA did have oil. Drilling began in the 19th century, and in the early 20th century large sections of the city, including Downtown, were covered with oil wells. But real estate investors saw huge amounts of money to be made by residential and commercial development, and gradually most oil wells were either shut down or hidden. (The majority of wells that are still visible are located in the southern part of LA, and the low-income communities that are impacted don’t have the political clout to shut them down.) The real estate investors promoted Los Angeles aggressively, putting ads in newspapers nationwide, essentially selling the climate. LA had lots of sun and little rain. People came, but the investors knew that to sustain new development they’d need to bring more water to the area. The LA Aqueduct was completed in 1913, after business interests used dishonest means to buy up the rights to the Owens Valley’s water resources. As the city continued to grow, LA snagged more water from the Colorado River with the construction of Hoover Dam during the Depression. Then came the construction of the California State Water Project, which extended from the 50s through the 70s. The bottom line is, the City of LA is only able to support a population of almost four million people because it imports about 90% of its water from areas that are hundreds of miles away.

I’m talking about the way LA was built because I think it’s important to understand the city’s history in talking about the fires that have devastated LA’s communities. Real estate investors built LA because there were fortunes to be made. In the first past of the 20th century, the only efforts at planning were driven by investors looking for profit. In the second half of the 20th century, there was more of an effort to plan for growth, but efforts at responsible planning were often overridden by the same investors looking for more profits. In the 21st century, there’s a lot of talk about planning at City Hall, but really most of it boils down to upzoning large swaths of the city to promote more growth. Planning in the City of LA is still largely driven by investors and their lobbyists. If you don’t believe me, please read up on the recent convictions of former Councilmember Jose Huizar, former Deputy Mayor Ray Chan and others who were caught up in a massive scandal involving bribery, fraud and racketeering. And if you think those convicted were the only ones involved, it’s important to remember that projects backed by Huizar were almost without exception unanimously approved by the LA City Council.

Image from Cal Fire Update, January 11, 2025

The point here is that development in LA is not driven by responsible planning. Development in LA is driven by money. If you want to know why projects were approved and are still being approved in fire-prone areas, follow the money. While there have been individuals who chose to build their own homes in areas where fire risk is high, most of the residential development in these areas is the result of the creation of suburban subdivisions. Even when citizens expressed concern about fire risks in these areas, they were almost always ignored by the politicians, who had often received campaign contributions from the developers. The Porter Ranch area has been repeatedly threatened by fires, but that didn’t stop the City of LA from approving The Vineyards at Porter Ranch, a recent multi-phase mixed-use project that includes apartments, a hotel and a large retail component. The project location has been designated by the LA Fire Department as a Very High Fire Hazard Severity Zone (VHFHSZ). Another example is LA City Planning Director Vince Bertoni’s approval of the initiation of a General Plan Amendment (GPA) to make way for the Bulgari Hotel, a massive luxury hotel project that was to be located in another VHFHSZ in the Santa Monica Mountains. The request for the GPA was submitted by developer representative Stacey Brenner, whose husband served as a deputy to former Councilmember Paul Koretz. The project was in Koretz’ district. The Bulgari Hotel was only stopped because area residents put intense pressure on Koretz’ successor, Councilmember Katy Yaroslavsky, who promised to stop the project during her campaign for the office.

Many of the areas that have been burned in the current spate of fires have burned repeatedly before. In the last few decades there have been multiple fires in Brentwood, Bel Air and the Hollywood Hills. Other communities like Baldwin Hills, Sunland-Tujunga and Chatsworth have all been hit by devastating fires. But, with rare exceptions, the City of LA continues to approve new development in fire prone areas.

As fires continue to rage across Los Angeles County, talk of rebuilding has already begun. I wish our elected officials would take some time to think about this. We need to have a tough conversation about rebuilding. I understand that thousands of people have lost their homes, and their dearest wish would be to rebuild and return to their communities. If individuals have the resources to do this, and if they understand the risks, they should be able to make that choice. But with the death toll from the current fires at 16, and damages worth billions of dollars, our elected officials should think long and hard about pushing for large scale development in fire prone areas. In most of these areas, the question is not whether they’ll burn again but when they’ll burn again. The LA area has always been prone to fires. As climate change continues to make the region drier and warmer, the risks will only increase. And while our firefighters can work miracles when conditions are favorable, we’re now seeing a brutal demonstration of how hard it is to control wind-driven fires.

It remains to be seen how strong the push for rebuilding will be once the fires stop. No doubt the real estate investors are already weighing their options. Some may want to bet on rebuilding. Others may think the risk is too great and decide to put their money elsewhere. But California Governor Gavin Newsom has already announced the suspension of laws that would require environmental review for rebuilding in fire prone areas. This is just crazy. After this disaster we should be insisting on stronger environmental review. The California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) requires an assessment of whether new development will result in wildfire risks. It also requires cities to ask whether fire departments can provide adequate protection and whether the site can be safely evacuated in an emergency. Instead of brushing these issues aside, we should be insisting on careful scrutiny.

CEQA also requires review of a project’s greenhouse gas emissions (GHGs), because of the growing threat of climate change. Most Environmental Impact Reports I’ve read make no meaningful effort to accurately assess a project’s GHG impacts. Instead, the preparers rely on the State’s CalEEMod platform, which allows them to input whatever numbers they want, thereby pretty much guaranteeing that no project will ever appear to cause significant GHG impacts. In reviewing the EIRs, LA City Planning generally accepts whatever the developers claim without question. While the City of LA and the State of California claim to be fighting climate change, in reality both of them usually support new development regardless of what the GHG impacts are.

Again, I totally understand that many of those who lost homes in the fire are anxious to rebuild. If I were in their situation, I’d probably feel the same way. But LA has been repeatedly hit by deadly and devastating fires. As much as we may want to hear inspiring words about rebuilding, we need to ask: Do we want to be reliving this tragedy over and over again?

Let’s think carefully before we start to build again. And let’s demand that our elected officials do the same.

Image from Cal Fire Update, January 11, 2025